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Notrangerjoe
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  • 0. Oh god please stop me   11/28/2009 07:07:39 PM PST
I just found out that the WoW battle chest (WoW and BC together) is on sale for $20. I quit over a year ago (sold my account) and now I have this overwhelming urge to start over.

Ugh, WTF is wrong with me.
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Fivebyfive
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  • 1. Re: Oh god please stop me   11/28/2009 07:12:51 PM PST
I had the urge to quit smoking once.
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Lepsis
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  • 3. Re: Oh god please stop me   11/28/2009 07:17:27 PM PST
Endgame consists of being forced into a team to battle with other teams

No one really cares about battlegrounds anymore, even though they are still much more fun, and have a much greater variety of fights and fight types.

The insane power of healers means that the entire game is balanced around them. Ie, kiting has been all but removed from the game. The mitigation that was once accomplished by kiting is now accomplished by an ally healer.

Ironically, there is even worse 1v1 balance now than there was at the start of classic. Devs have made it prominently clear that rogues are intended to win all 1v1 fights, assuming equal skill.

Raids are so pathetically easy there is no satisfaction from beating them. Furthermore, even good guilds are comprised of low skill metoos, who only know how to play because they have been doing the same thing for 5 years.

There are no more "damage" classes. That paladin guild leader has better gear than you, which means he does more damage than you. Mage lol.

Achievements are a soul-sucking empty pit of nothing, than no one cares about in any way. Even at my most benevolent moment, I felt only contempt for those who had more achievement points than I did.




There, I hope I've managed to stop you.
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Notrangerjoe
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  • 4. Re: Oh god please stop me   11/28/2009 07:20:00 PM PST

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There are no more "damage" classes. That paladin guild leader has better gear than you, which means he does more damage than you. Mage lol.

Okay, mages are still being shat on. Thank jeebus you've saved me. I love you.
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The-noose
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  • 6. Re: Oh god please stop me   11/29/2009 03:01:03 AM PST
Don't do it, i started playing again at the beggining of summer for 4 months or so. I played my priest and lock for a while and after the WoW crack feeling went away i realized i wasted many hours for several months and was bored most of the time anyways. It's fun for a while then you just want to make your char ever more uber then you realize its retarded, boring and extremely extraordinarily repetitive and quit. Save yourself the money and time and don't start over.
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Lepsis
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  • 10. Re: Oh god please stop me   11/29/2009 10:36:56 AM PST
I'm surprised you admit that so freely. That's precisely the problem I'm talking about. Every class is totally viable as dps. There is no intelligent reason to roll a non-hybrid.

5%-10% is meaningless. There is roughly a 0-30% difference in player skill, so class limits (which vary heavily based on fights) aren't as important as who is behind the monitor. With that being true, why on earth would I play something like a mage, which is only viable in pvp as frost, (and with rogue help) when I can play a paladin?

The paladin can tank anything, can heal anything, it is effortless to collect those offsets if you enjoy playing at all, and can pvp seriously with a wide composition of allies, can perform better with non-optimal compositions than other classes, and can also nearly hit maximum dps? (And if you're a great player, you will still be #1 on the meter)

"Mage lol" couldn't be a more true expression. Blizzard horribly destroyed their game in so many ways.
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  • 11. Re: Oh god please stop me   11/29/2009 10:39:29 AM PST

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Originally posted by Lepsis

I'm surprised you admit that so freely. That's precisely the problem I'm talking about. Every class is totally viable as dps. There is no intelligent reason to roll a non-hybrid.

5%-10% is meaningless. There is roughly a 0-30% difference in player skill, so class limits (which vary heavily based on fights) aren't as important as who is behind the monitor. With that being true, why on earth would I play something like a mage, which is only viable in pvp as frost, (and with rogue help) when I can play a paladin?

The paladin can tank anything, can heal anything, it is effortless to collect those offsets if you enjoy playing at all, and can pvp seriously with a wide composition of allies, can perform better with non-optimal compositions than other classes, and can also nearly hit maximum dps? (And if you're a great player, you will still be #1 on the meter)

"Mage lol" couldn't be a more true expression. Blizzard horribly destroyed their game in so many ways.


What about the Paladins that don't bother tanking or healing? Why should they be pointless to bring along?
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Lepsis
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  • 13. Re: Oh god please stop me   11/29/2009 10:45:03 AM PST
Because they rolled a paladin, while knowing what it is. There is no excuse for that. If you want to blow crap up, and the class is a healer, then you are expected to possess the mental faculty to know that they will pay for those advantages in other ways.

Blizzard only abandoned that class balance because the entire game is now a horrifying money grab being waged against addicts.


Please try to understand, I'm not ever going to change my mind on this. I've heard all the counterarguments. There's little point in us continuing to argue this point. We just have to agree to disagree. I've left the game behind, that should be enough for you.
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  • 17. Re: Oh god please stop me   11/29/2009 10:57:51 AM PST

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Originally posted by Lepsis

Because they rolled a paladin, while knowing what it is. There is no excuse for that.


I started playing a month after the game was released, and nowhere did it say in the manual or in the class description when I was creating my character that I would deal any less damage than other melee classes.

If I can swing a @@#@ing giant two handed hammer and hit people with holy energy I think I should be doing some decent damage.
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