I wanted to just share an article about an iPhone App and how Piracy has harmed it. Will this relate to Starcraft 2? Not fully. Nor do I believe we should use this topic to beat the dead horse of LAN or DRM or Piracy or whatever... If we want to do that, we should Necro another thread that hits the topic with better points.
I'm genuinely curious of some opinions on this article as a whole and your views on how DRM could assist or hinder it. http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/the-little-tank-that-could-for-iphone-was-pirated-96-percent-of-the-time-20090729
Yes, this is an attempt at constructive conversation in this cesspool of trolls, I even invite the trolls to bring up valid points if they wish. Thanks ahead of time :)
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*plink plink* Assume the above are merely my two cents, therefore, an opinion you should listen to. It could be better than yours! ^_^
Immediate standard unproven assumption that there would be more purchasers if there were less pirates.
Maybe it'd've been.
6 purchases.
6 players.
Due to less people hearing about it from pirates or trying before buying.
This is trotted out by RIAA, game companies etc ad nauseum as they always assume people will just jump to their conclusion.
Yeah, I'd be very interested in seeing what his sales look like a month from now. We'll see if we should be worrying about poor bram.
Also, after watching the video, it looked like some really neat physics, but a neat tech demo doesn't necessarily translate into a fun game worth $2.00 that you'd recommend to your friends.
Being pro-piracy, understanding the arguements on both sides, is not the same as being a pimply face teenager that likes getting his music for free.
Um... could you elaborate what exactly "pro-piracy" means? I would agree that piracy isn't always bad and sometimes helps products, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that I'm pro-piracy. If you like it, you should buy it....
Yea, i love bandwagons. They all toot their own music. Plus the fact that there are live BANDS in the wagon with you, it creates a surreal experience for anyone.
That said, make sure you are in a really good/fun/funny bandwagon, or else you might be depressed in the drudgery of the ride.
"i hear that StarCrack 2 will have LAN capabilities that StarCraft 2 won't, so i'm definitely going for the first."
= Anonymous on Starcraft 2
Rofl that's saying the more that people pirate, the more often they buy the products. That website isn't true... If piracy is "free advertising" why would it matter if they advertise them if they're just gonna pirate it anyway???
Yeah... you strike me as a real free thinker who would never succumb to propaganda.
Anyway, this debate is way too broad to get into on this forum, so I'm not going to argue with you. All I'll say is you should think a little bit harder about the ramifications of legalizing piracy altogether. At the rate that bandwidth and technological know-how are increasing, its very naive to think that current statistics are representitive of what piracy would look like if it were legal 5-10 years from now.
Be careful what you wish for man, because I don't think your ideal world will contain a starcraft 3.
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17. Re: Just a little example of how Piracy CAN h 07/29/2009 08:59:08 PM PDT
When will people learn that the world is not black and white with no shades in between?
Each side always believe that they are 100% correct. That is just not possible.
Does piracy hurt developers?
Yes it does. Especially if the game doesn't have a online function. You can not tell me that there isn't even just a portion of people out there that would have bought the game if they couldn't get it for free.
Is it killing PC gaming?
Yes it is. And no not because I think more people would be buying it. I believe that most of the people that pirate games can not afford to go out and spend 50/60 dollars on a game. However, the companies DO believe it hurts their bottom line and what has happened is they simply do not develop a lot of games for the PC anymore.
Is PC gaming dead?
Not in the slightest, but it sure is hurting when compared to the line up of games that go to consoles.
Is it a way to play a game before you buy it?
Yes, and its in the hands of the developer here. If they want to eliminate this one its on their head.
Does DRM suck?
Yes, especially if its intrusive. It doesn't help anybody. The game will still be pirated and the real customers are stuck with all the hassle.
Its give and take here. Sure, some people would buy the game if they couldn't get it for free. Sure some people wouldn't be able to buy the game if it weren't free.
Piracy is coming to and end though, and PC gaming WILL thrive again with Cloud Computing.
Check this out: (Watch the video at the bottom.)
http://www.dperry.com/archives/news/dp_blog/gaikai_-_video/
Its in its infancy and has a long way to go, but that is the future my friends.
NO more piracy, because the game is run on a remote server.
No need for a good computer. Just good internet and the capability to display video.
Developers will come back to the PC as a real means to develop for because of the pirating AND because they no longer have to develop for 9000 configurations, as they just need to develop the game for their own servers to run.
Microsoft will no longer hold the reigns on the world of Operating systems. Because it doesn't matter what you run, as long as it can display video and has internet, you can play anything and run anything.
Googles operating system will become the new champ as it starts up in seconds and can run anything because of cloud computing.
Like I said, its in its infancy, but its the future. And it will change piracy forever. Not just in games, but in other software as well.
