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Totzlol
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  • 0. Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 03:36:04 PM PDT
Never really got how it effects burrowed units to the fullest.

Personally, I think that Psi Storm should at least do 75% or even 50% damage vs. burrowed units.

Dirt isn't exactly a conductor...if you know what I mean.

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Purger
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  • 1. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 03:38:09 PM PDT
No it's not. It makes logical sense for it to be reduced, but it may not make balancing sense.
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Seeders
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  • 2. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 03:38:20 PM PDT
psionic power isn't exactly electricity either.
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Warlord255
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  • 5. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 03:50:27 PM PDT
Considering how burrow-reliant Zerg are now, and how much more devastating detection is against them, a damage reduction of this sort is not unreasonable. Even if Zerg were to instantly burrow whenever presented with Psi-storm, doing so would still hamper their offensive accordingly.
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  • 6. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 04:10:21 PM PDT
I somewhat agree that burrowed units could have a damage reduction and not just for psi storm, but every attack/damage against them. The amount would have to be based on balance. Most zerg units can't do anything while burrowed, however, they do instantly resurface when attacked (except for lurker/infestor/baneling, I'd assume).
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Avgikos
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  • 8. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 04:27:57 PM PDT

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Yeah. Maybe even incorporate it into an upgrade.

"Deep Burrow"
Burrows units deeper into the ground, reducing damage taken by 25-50%


You don't give up, do you? lol
That's like the 4th time you've brought up that upgrade idea and every time for some barely logical reason. :|
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Avgikos
  • USWest
  • 10. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 04:34:14 PM PDT

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Weird, cuz this is the first time I've ever mentioned any kind of game changes that I think should happen, save for minor tweaks and such.

You must be mixing me up for someone else?


Could be.
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Avgikos
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  • 12. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 04:40:54 PM PDT

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Yeh, I'm not the kinda guy who goes around pretending that every idea I come up with is better than a gaming company thats 11+ years strong. =D

Just thought this one might be interesting.


I'm all for reduced damage on burrowed units. I'm actually with you on this. I just think another upgrade, particularly another burrow upgrade, doesn't make sense. Just set the reduced damage at a value that corresponds to balance and be done with it.

At most I would be satisfied with a solution that factors in carapace upgrades and multiplies the original damage reduction.
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  • 13. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 04:41:49 PM PDT
There is a forum for SC2 for a reason, express ideas/ask questions/comment/etc.
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Lepsis
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  • 14. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 04:42:38 PM PDT
This is designing in the wrong direction. A passive defense against active, micro-intensive offense makes clicking less relevant. What would actually make sense is an active defense against any form of attack, like a temporary burrow mode that decreases damage. I'm not sure that zerg need that, however.
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Avgikos
  • USWest
  • 15. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 04:44:11 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
This is designing in the wrong direction. A passive defense against active, micro-intensive offense makes clicking less relevant. What would actually make sense is an active defense against any form of attack, like a temporary burrow mode that decreases damage. I'm not sure that zerg need that, however.


What other options do you have in a psi storm though? Think about it. By the time you move a unit from the center into safety, it's dead or close to. I would like to see burrowing as some sort of counter to this.
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Vonfoxfire
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  • 16. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 05:20:28 PM PDT
I'm against the idea , psi storm is the only way to counter burrowed zerg if you've lost or have no detectors on the field. Given all the zerg units burrow i think it would be way to advantageous for the zerg side.
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Karune
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  • 17. Re: Psi Storm vs. Burrowed   07/02/2009 05:38:38 PM PDT

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psionic power isn't exactly electricity either.


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