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Via-niptuck
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  • 21. Re: Request - Make Energy Useful   05/16/2009 02:22:59 AM PDT

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es block sorc >


You either have 1.2k mana and low block, or 600 mana and 75% block. 75% block requires about 130 dex clean at 99 lvl (with storm), so es will suck pretty bad with no stats put on energy.
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Via-niptuck
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  • 23. Re: Request - Make Energy Useful   05/16/2009 02:57:53 AM PDT
Yeah, and lose the 35% DR and resists from storm for using crappy shields
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Jg89
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  • 24. Re: Request - Make Energy Useful   05/16/2009 04:46:10 AM PDT

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There would be more variation with builds. You could make char with lesser damage but higher hp by bumping all to vita or maybe a glass cannon that takes only energy and tryes to avoid being hit or anything between. It's not just one build that has x vita and y energy.

And since everyone would get equally nerfed (assuming this would lead to it) duels would be just the same except more different builds and if PvM would get harder...well I don't see any reason why it shouldn't :D


I didn't see it that way actually, silly me :P. That would be pretty cool.
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Master_zoen
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  • 25. Re: Request - Make Energy Useful   05/16/2009 05:28:16 PM PDT

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Yeah, and lose the 35% DR and resists from storm for using crappy shields

Best socket it with a -15% req, 15 all res, 9 dex, 9 energy Jewel for maximum effect. :P

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  • 26. Re: Request - Make Energy Useful   05/17/2009 01:33:36 AM PDT

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That's the thing with PvP people. One slight change could "ruin everything", so the only changes THEY want are the ones that benefit the specific character THEY use in PvP. If it doesn't benefit them, they don't want it.


BotD ruined sword babas cos BA was better than CB. GA change ruined bow amas. Some people whine others don't but eventually all get used to it :P


Q u o t e:
screw storm use whistan's or up'd visc for mb sorc

easily 75% block without draining too much from your mana pool.


Personally I would use Jeweler's Aegis of Deflecting with 4 eld because it can have higher def than whistan.


Q u o t e:
Yeah, and lose the 35% DR and resists from storm for using crappy shields


Damage absorbed by ES is not reduced by DR so storm on ES sorcs sounds like having Enigma Scared Armor

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Via-niptuck
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  • 28. Re: Request - Make Energy Useful   05/17/2009 08:16:45 AM PDT

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Damage absorbed by ES is not reduced by DR so storm on ES sorcs sounds like having Enigma Scared Armor


"Effect: Absorbs magical and some physical damage to Mana instead of Life."

Oh, no, you failed.
Anyway, it's not as bad as you think to combine ES magic absorb with DR from storm, it's OBLIGATORY. Otherwise you are too vulnerable to either of the two magic/physical dmg, you're dead.

@ r.u.k.i.a.
Obviously you're too damn lame. Stay in US west plz. Europe has enough of you.

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  • 29. Re: Request - Make Energy Useful   05/17/2009 10:18:36 AM PDT

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"Effect: Absorbs magical and some physical damage to Mana instead of Life."

Oh, no, you failed.
Anyway, it's not as bad as you think to combine ES magic absorb with DR from storm, it's OBLIGATORY. Otherwise you are too vulnerable to either of the two magic/physical dmg, you're dead.


Ofc it absorbs some damage because it works that way. If you have high mana shield you will suffer only a little beating to your life while shield is active. When going block you already have high reduction to all blockable attacks so that leaves you vulnerable to tornado and smite. I don't see putting all those points ti str and dex to meet storm reguirements (reg + block) helps you anymore against the said enemies than putting all into ene. And putting all into ene helps against EVERY char (except psn ofc)

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Blah
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  • 31. Re: Request - Make Energy Useful   05/17/2009 01:56:25 PM PDT
I have energy-shield sorc, uses lightning as main attack skill. I don't even have insight merch, and I can kick mobs ass on hell quite easily as long there are no large groups of immunities (merch can handle small groups). I have ~200 points at energy & vita and enough str to use gear and NONE at dex. Energy IS useful, for sorc.

I can mf run hell andy, countess, summoner, meph, nilathak and baal. Diablo is only problem because of the light immunities.. well I'm gonna get infinity soon.
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Via-niptuck
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  • 32. Re: Request - Make Energy Useful   05/17/2009 02:32:59 PM PDT

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Ofc it absorbs some damage because it works that way. If you have high mana shield you will suffer only a little beating to your life while shield is active. When going block you already have high reduction to all blockable attacks so that leaves you vulnerable to tornado and smite. I don't see putting all those points ti str and dex to meet storm reguirements (reg + block) helps you anymore against the said enemies than putting all into ene. And putting all into ene helps against EVERY char (except psn ofc)


I already said max block and high mana for es are no achieveable at the same time. I don't think putting 80 str for storm (come on, count torch, anni, coh, 30 str from the shield itself etc.) and nothing to dex is stats losing. But you still get the DR and resists.
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  • 33. Re: Request - Make Energy Useful   05/17/2009 03:02:33 PM PDT

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I already said max block and high mana for es are no achieveable at the same time. I don't think putting 80 str for storm (come on, count torch, anni, coh, 30 str from the shield itself etc.) and nothing to dex is stats losing. But you still get the DR and resists.


I'd say that 80 points in energy is be better but that's just my opinion. As a res shield storm blows and dr could rather be achieved from ber runes even though you wont get is very high.

But all this depends on the build ofc. If you are using spirit then then hell why not put storm against melee.

Also depends if you are trying to make a build that dies about the same time mana runs out or build that runs out of mana before first 200 life is lost. I former case strom is not that bad. In latter it is however completely useless.


As a side this first time I got same captcha that I got earlier.

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