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Deleb
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  • 0. Throne room & act boss : Write if u support   05/09/2009 10:28:22 AM PDT
One way to remove bots is to set immunities to all kinds of chars where they can't break.
There are five only major monsters sprawn in throne room.
First spraw : immune to fire
Second spraw : immune to cold + poison + magic
third spraw : immune to lightning + cold
fourth spraw : immune to fire
last spraw : immune to physical + cold/fire/light

well, make this modification with the aura enhanced.
1st : immune to fire + magic ( holy fire aura )
2nd : immune to poison + cold ( holy freeze )
3rd : immune to cold/light + physical ( conviction )
4th : immune to fire + light ( holy shock )
5th : immune to physical / maigc + cold / light / fire ( conviction )

and baal , diablo, meph, dury, andy
each will need to immune to one kind of attack
e.g.
they will be randomly immune to 2 elemental skills or 1 ele+ mag or 1 ele + phy

no immunities in throne room or act boss can be removed ( even they equip runewords like infinity )

This is not a penalty but a better game play for all legit players ( who already know how to deal with immunities ) But it 's also fun for illegal players ( they will need to pay more attention when writing bots/hacks )

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Meuchelmorder
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  • 1. Re: Throne room & act boss : Write if u suppo   05/09/2009 10:37:01 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
One way to remove bots is to set immunities to all kinds of chars where they can't break.
There are five only major monsters sprawn in throne room.
First spraw : immune to fire
Second spraw : immune to cold + poison + magic
third spraw : immune to lightning + cold
fourth spraw : immune to fire
last spraw : immune to physical + cold/fire/light

well, make this modification with the aura enhanced.
1st : immune to fire + magic ( holy fire aura )
2nd : immune to poison + cold ( holy freeze )
3rd : immune to cold/light + physical ( conviction )
4th : immune to fire + light ( holy shock )
5th : immune to physical / maigc + cold / light / fire ( conviction )

and baal , diablo, meph, dury, andy
each will need to immune to one kind of attack
e.g.
they will be randomly immune to 2 elemental skills or 1 ele+ mag or 1 ele + phy

no immunities in throne room or act boss can be removed ( even they equip runewords like infinity )

This is not a penalty but a better game play for all legit players ( who already know how to deal with immunities ) But it 's also fun for illegal players ( they will need to pay more attention when writing bots/hacks )




That's like setting someone on fire to get rid of their runny nose.








Instead of totally screwing the game up, they could just find a way to ban bots.



You can run ... but you'll only die tired.
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Hellbender
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  • 2. Re: Throne room & act boss : Write if u suppo   05/10/2009 10:40:41 PM PDT
I dont see nothing wrong with someone thinking for once. How do you think anything was created.

Any buisness man will tell you, it takes 100 bad ideas to have one great one.

I would think if it was that easy to ban poeple, they would have done it. They have to find a way to acually prove there using one to ban>< Policys blow dont they.
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Stigz
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  • 3. Re: Throne room & act boss : Write if u suppo   05/11/2009 02:18:19 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
One way to remove bots is to set immunities to all kinds of chars where they can't break.
There are five only major monsters sprawn in throne room.
First spraw : immune to fire
Second spraw : immune to cold + poison + magic
third spraw : immune to lightning + cold
fourth spraw : immune to fire
last spraw : immune to physical + cold/fire/light

well, make this modification with the aura enhanced.
1st : immune to fire + magic ( holy fire aura )
2nd : immune to poison + cold ( holy freeze )
3rd : immune to cold/light + physical ( conviction )
4th : immune to fire + light ( holy shock )
5th : immune to physical / maigc + cold / light / fire ( conviction )

and baal , diablo, meph, dury, andy
each will need to immune to one kind of attack
e.g.
they will be randomly immune to 2 elemental skills or 1 ele+ mag or 1 ele + phy

no immunities in throne room or act boss can be removed ( even they equip runewords like infinity )

This is not a penalty but a better game play for all legit players ( who already know how to deal with immunities ) But it 's also fun for illegal players ( they will need to pay more attention when writing bots/hacks )




And now the bots will use Infinity Sorceress.
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Deleb
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  • 4. Re: Throne room & act boss : Write if u suppo   05/11/2009 02:24:56 AM PDT
no sorry,
no runewords is allowed to break the immunities in throne room and act boss.
Therefore, infinity sorc is still helpless.
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Stigz
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  • 5. Re: Throne room & act boss : Write if u suppo   05/11/2009 02:30:25 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
no sorry,
no runewords is allowed to break the immunities in throne room and act boss.
Therefore, infinity sorc is still helpless.



Your idea fails because it makes every sorceress a helpless char.
What about people who love to solo the game?!
What about single player?
And farming WSK with high mf is more profitable then farming baal.
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Deleb
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  • 6. Re: Throne room & act boss : Write if u suppo   05/11/2009 02:46:03 AM PDT
who say that they can't solo the game?

e.g. if u use an infinity sorc, and you are facing a boss/million which is phy+light immune+Holy freeze
and you can't break the immunity, there are 2 ways for u to do
1.) quit the game
2.) you will rely on your merc to kill the monster slowly.

Just a bit slower, why not?
human intelligent is better than bot.
players will need to improve the skill clear the area ( if this is their goal )
slower is not equal to impossible

At least most of the bots ( with limited intelligence ) will need to quite to game too often / require multiple bots which is too expensive to common players once all cdkeys are banned.

Banning cdkey is also a source of blizzard's income.
Blizzard will need to find some way to earn more from player but fool them to play the game as if blizzard shows incredible concern on them.
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Deleb
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  • 8. Re: Throne room & act boss : Write if u suppo   05/11/2009 07:48:52 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
Here we are again. Your idea fails on many levels.

A) Your not taking into account the fact that some players still play single player.
B) It would horrably unbalance the game.
C) Your idea(s) is illogical... may as well add "killer dancing cats" to the game while their at it.
D) Your idea(s) will do NOTHING to stop the flow of bots. They'll just move to other areas to farm at.


Here you spam again. Your reply fails on the highest level.
A) Even there are immunities that cannnot be broken by runewords, they can still be removed by merc.
i.e. Single players are still able to solo
B) You are not taking serious to read my original ideas
C) Your reply is completely illogical and irrelavent. Many people in the forum kill other people's ideas by completely discourage their opinion and trying to stop them from expressing themselves.
D) My idea(s) will at least make bots hard to set up such that not all players are able to start bots easily.
Blizzard has worked hard to stop bot/hack/dupes but no matter how many patches they work to
protect the game, it's still to difficult to remove all bots.
E) In some important areas, if each chars has at least one monster completely immune to them, it is
still a fair way to balance the game. ( is it balanced currently when light sor/trap sin/ .... require infinity
to solo while hammdin is immune to all monsters? Thus make sure that your reply make sense. )
F) u can't kick

Improve your attitude in the forum and try to dig all points that are potentially improve the game.
This will certainly help blizzard to revise and patch diablo better than ever.
Good luck.
( i hope you won't always say no to your children or say, " you fail you fail" .... back to school and learn how you can communicate with the others in a calm, supportive, and friendly way )

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Kramuti
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  • 9. Re: Throne room & act boss : Write if u suppo   05/11/2009 08:44:21 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
My idea(s) will at least make bots hard to set up such that not all players are able to start bots easily.


That is a totally ridiculous statement....you are not forcing them to change gear at all. Therefore they will not be any more difficult to setup. It will just be slower doing baal runs.
They will just switch to chaos sanctuary, as it can be done a helluva a lot faster and easier.

I have no issues with making the game more difficult overall, but to make the last room the only thing that is marginally difficult is not sufficient.

Rather than this idea, why not just rebalance the game so that is is nigh impossible to finish before level 95.

"The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits" Einstein
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Meuchelmorder
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  • 11. Re: Throne room & act boss : Write if u suppo   05/11/2009 10:14:30 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
I would think if it was that easy to ban poeple, they would have done it. They have to find a way to acually prove there using one to ban>< Policys blow dont they.


You're right, they shouldn't keep trying to think of ways to detect bots apart from people, because that would be hard.

They should always just do the easy thing.

You can run ... but you'll only die tired.
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Alpha_lemming
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  • 12. Re: Throne room & act boss : Write if u suppo   05/11/2009 11:01:20 AM PDT
Rune words aren't the problem here, it's their proliferation.If blizzard figures out a way to finally take care of bots and dupes (I think captcha would go a long way toward bots) then the rune words would be rare enough to be a non factor.Nailing down bots should be the primary concern in my opinion, as interesting as your idea is it removes the possibility of a solo run onl hell baal.This is way too heavy handed an approach to fixing one problem, the root of the problem needs to be addressed not merely one of the symptoms and removing the possibility for a single player to complete the game seems like it'd do much more harm than good.
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