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Blackbelt13
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  • 0. how do you die then come back?   12/10/2008 04:11:46 PM PST
diablo was different from diablo2. In diablo you had to save he game and when you died you restart from where you saved. In diablo2 You had to retrieve your body if you died. SO blizzard, you gonna use either of these or come up with something else. I mean the barb had his head eaten, so it would be kinda hard to retrieve his helm. And i noticed the assault beast smashes the female witch docters body and it flies off screen. Just wonderin'...
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  • 1. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/10/2008 04:23:10 PM PST
Pretty sure it uses a checkpoint type system and upon dying your respawned at the last checkpoint you encountered with minimal HP/Mana.

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Blackbelt13
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  • 2. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/10/2008 04:53:58 PM PST
Okee, but i want an answer from blizzard. even if it's only,"we arn't that far into development."
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  • 3. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/10/2008 04:55:00 PM PST
I believe it's safe to say they will be using the D2 save game mechanic. Respawning areas with monsters pretty much requires it. You need to load up in town (somewhere without monster respawns), otherwise you could find yourself in immediate mortal danger the split second the game loads.
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  • 4. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/10/2008 05:43:09 PM PST
sounds painful :)
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  • 5. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/10/2008 06:10:00 PM PST

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Okee, but i want an answer from blizzard. even if it's only,"we arn't that far into development."


I doubt you will get an answer from Blizzard...

But, for what its worth, during the demo at Blizzcon, you simply respawned at the nearest checkpoint. The waypoint system is still in the game as well. I assume that we will load in new games into a town just like in Diablo II.
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  • 6. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 09:15:56 AM PST

Q u o t e:
during the demo at Blizzcon, you simply respawned at the nearest checkpoint.


Did you have to retrieve your gear or did you respawn with it?



Q u o t e:
The waypoint system is still in the game as well. I assume that we will load in new games into a town just like in Diablo II.


The waypoints will be a lot further apart than they were in D2. If they're too far apart, it might require that we spawn at the checkpoints when loading a new game. Otherwise, there will be no way to progress unless you have time to play a very long game session.

Titan Quest did something like that. We frequently didn't have time to play all the way to the next waypoint because they were much too far apart, so we would just play until we reached the next checkpoint. And that's where the next game we loaded would spawn us.

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Blackbelt13
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  • 7. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 09:35:07 AM PST
I wasn't at Blizzcon, but that sounds good. I was tired of running around trying to get my body when some uber awesome lightning enchanted monster is standing on it and my mercinarie is hitting them cause i was too stoopeed to leave them dead.
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  • 8. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 10:02:44 AM PST

Q u o t e:
diablo was different from diablo2. In diablo you had to save he game and when you died you restart from where you saved. In diablo2 You had to retrieve your body if you died. SO blizzard, you gonna use either of these or come up with something else. I mean the barb had his head eaten, so it would be kinda hard to retrieve his helm. And i noticed the assault beast smashes the female witch docters body and it flies off screen. Just wonderin'...


Start by reading the interviews, that will save you time.

The barb getting his head ripped off was a scripted moment in the trailer. So basically, that doesn't happen in the game.

I think that solves the problem. Thread can be closed lol!

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Blackbelt13
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  • 9. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 10:04:56 AM PST

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Start by reading the interviews, that will save you time.

The barb getting his head ripped off was a scripted moment in the trailer. So basically, that doesn't happen in the game.

I think that solves the problem. Thread can be closed lol!


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i'm ok... I still buy game it'll be awesome
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Tukanta
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  • 10. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 10:13:59 AM PST

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The barb getting his head ripped off was a scripted moment in the trailer. So basically, that doesn't happen in the game.


Really? I could swear I read Blizzard say that the game will check to see if an attack will kill your character, and if it will, the animation could be a special finishing move (like the barb getting his head ripped off) especially during a boss battle. Do I remember that incorrectly?

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  • 11. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 10:18:26 AM PST

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Really? I could swear I read Blizzard say that the game will check to see if an attack will kill your character, and if it will, the animation could be a special finishing move (like the barb getting his head ripped off) especially during a boss battle. Do I remember that incorrectly?


I think I read what you're mentioning somewhere. A special finishing move might be done by OUR characters though, not the enemies.

As for my comment, it came from Rob Pardo. I'm at work and too lazy to search it right now, but if you want to, you can search it, you'll find it for sure. Scripted baby, yeahhhhhh...

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Tukanta
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  • 12. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 10:38:52 AM PST

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I think I read what you're mentioning somewhere. A special finishing move might be done by OUR characters though, not the enemies.


I'm pretty sure that what I read was about the enemies, because I remember thinking that people were reading more into it than what it actually said. People were assuming that all enemies had these finishing moves, even though what was said was that enemies, especially the bosses, will have them (which to me implies that not all enemies will have them).

I'll see if I can find it, but I've never been able to get the search function to work, so I'm not hopeful.

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Darkfriar321
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  • 13. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 11:14:26 AM PST

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Bornakk: Awesome. The next question is from Immelmann from Diii.net. Will there be special player deaths in various situations? Like when the Siegebreaker bit the Barbarian in half during the gameplay demo.


Jay Wilson: Well what we want to do with that, especially for particular bosses is have when essentially when the player is very low on health and they’re about to die the boss essentially checks like when it attacks you, did I just do enough damage to kill you? And if so then instead of just doing his normal attack he’d actually play some kind of special I pick you up and eat you or I throw you up in the air and knock you around like a baseball or something like that. It’s a system that really our announcement video we tested it for the first time, mainly just to see – can we actually do this kind of animation interaction between the characters but the actual system itself is still not in there but we do plan to do that and that’s primarily where. We might do some other things, we’ve talked about physics based deaths we’ve talked about having the characters if they like die to a cold monster he might completely freeze solid into a statue and then shatter or things like that but we haven’t decided at this point if that’s exactly what we’re going to do.


Blizzcast episode 6

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Tukanta
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  • 14. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 11:25:36 AM PST

Q u o t e:
Blizzcast episode 6


That's it. Thanks!

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Blackbelt13
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  • 15. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 01:38:38 PM PST

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Blizzcast episode 6



Don't let me down blizzard
Include them special deaths.
it's the only reason to not play hardcore...unless your a sissy...i'm a sissy lol
but yah DOO EET
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  • 17. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 01:50:55 PM PST
Rest assured Blackbelt.

Q u o t e:
Well what we want to do with that, especially for particular bosses is have when essentially when the player is very low on health and they’re about to die the boss essentially checks like when it attacks you, did I just do enough damage to kill you? And if so then instead of just doing his normal attack he’d actually play some kind of special I pick you up and eat you or I throw you up in the air and knock you around like a baseball or something like that.

they said they were just testing it. And... did you see anything wrong with it? Anything you saw that might have made them stop and think then say, "Mmmmm.. no.. that's a bad idea, we can't have that."

Not to mention there's much anticipation for the death animations. Not only that they're thinking about carrying them over to PvP. So really.. the PvE death animations are in. and probably also the PvP ones. They're just trying to keep you on the edge of your seat.

Also, I'm trying to locate the interview where they said that they're going to make it a check box type thing, saying that you can chose to have the death animation, or just the basic hit you and you die.

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Blackbelt13
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  • 18. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 01:54:47 PM PST
and you just spoiled the surprise, good work sherlock. but i am glad they probably keep. PVP i didn't hear anything about that. thats a whole nother reason to pvp. Dude i just got owned, some magician shot me and my head froze and she smashed it
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  • 19. Re: how do you die then come back?   12/11/2008 02:25:24 PM PST
We had a checkpoint system in the BlizzCon demo we showed, where you would die and pop back up at the last chekpoint you came across. Some of that was for the convenience of the demo, but we do like the checkpoint system and intend to carry that forward in the same or similar form. We're not looking toward corpse retrieval currently.

Any death system we do have needs to allow players to get back into the action quickly, but not be so meaningless that you're just flinging your corpse against a wall of monsters over and over until you finally get through.

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